That’s the key to success. The key to being listened to. Delivering really outstanding content. That’s the reason why the great Rich Schefren has a screenshot of this post in his Attention Age Doctrine Part 2 Report, and that’s how I found it.

Keep it on!

Andy

Yeah – it worked for Seth Godin so I thought I’d try it.
http://www.allmarketersareliars.com/

Sometimes they see a post title like yours and take it as a statement of fact rather than a clever attention grabber.

Like I told Andy Beard, “What really remains is whether or not we want to be white hat spammers or black hat spammers” lol

Best wishes,
Sam

I agree and I remember the old days well. Times have changed though and these guys certainly, for the most part, don’t date back as far as you and I. They’ve gotten sick of marketing on the internet from recent years, and rightly so.

The problem is that many of them don’t respect that some of us make our living online and that while we try hard to respect their rules, they despise that we are marketers first and foremost.

It is either jealousy because they are going to work for someone else the rest of their lives or ignorance of the fact that most of the tools they use and love were put together and invented by people with one incentive: to make a living online.

If it weren’t for the more motivated, entrepreneurial spirits online, they wouldn’t have the sites to “defend” and form their cliques on that they do and that’s a pure fact.

So we have to respect the rules and they have to realize that we don’t create content for free for them to devour at the rate they do without even so much as a link back.

The spammers are a whole other issue and we have just as much trouble with them as they do. But again, since we market at all, we get hammered and thrown into the same pool as spammers sometimes even though we follow the rules.

I am an old time marketer, and I’m just getting into the lingo of the new internet, what is so fondly called social community sites, it appears to me the rules placed here are no different than the news groups of earlier days.

The expectation of a news group, was simply this, if you came there bring some news. If you didn’t you were harshly dealt with. Each group had it’s topic or passion and if you were a valuable contributor to that news and or passion you were welcomed with open arms.

However in those days, you didn’t dare so much as put a URL in your post, or you would quickly find out what the word flamer meant.

I guess, what really needs to be understood by all, that courtesy and respect is by all means a top priority. Many of these contributors spend hours, researching these topics, trying to bring to them content of great value for all.

They do this willingly, looking for nothing more than an atta boy or girl when they accomplished their task. You can understand now why they get so mad when a spammer disrespects all of that work by not even so much as giving them the respect of that effort, by even reading it, let alone to respond intellectually about it.

David J